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Last month, Rachel Mazza and Laura Gale hit me up to be on their Business Of Writing Podcast.

And during the 35+ minute call we dove into some fun topics such as…

– How I got my first offer to convert on cold traffic back in 2010

– What kind of copy is working right now during the pandemic

– How copywriters can escape the “hours for dollars” ceiling that stalls their income growth

– The investing advice I wish I would have learned at 25 instead of 35

– How hiring a copy coach helped me go from $220k a year income to $2.2 million a year

– Why most people need to do LESS if they want to make more money

– The #1 fiction book you should read if you want to know what good, conversational copy sounds like 

– Plus a whole lot more…

This was a really good podcast.

And I just got word that it’s now live.

So if you want to give it a listen, you can do that at the link below…

-> Justin on the Business Of Writing Podcast


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